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February 14, 2003—Western Queens Gazette

Bronx Man Pursues Hell Gate's Treasure And A Dream
By Fred Pisciotta

Is a fortune in gold and silver buried within the remains of a sunken British frigate lying in the clay beneath the murky waters of the Hell Gate channel? One man, Joseph Govornali, believes so. The story of the HMS Hussar was the subject of his lecture at the Astoria Historical Society on Monday night.

On Nov. 23, 1780, while the American Revolutionary War raged, the British frigate HMS Hussar, laden with perhaps hundreds of thousands of pounds of gold and silver, sank after hitting a rock in the treacherous waters of Hell Gate, where the East River meets the Long Island Sound.

The Hussar was a British privateer, or legal pirate ship. As the story goes, she set off from England with a vast fortune of gold and silver payroll for the British forces in America. En route to New York, the Hussar attacked French and American vessels, and the gold and silver that were aboard those vessels was confiscated. The Hussar also met up with other British frigates that were pillaging the seas; however, these other ships having been commissioned into battle, discharged their confiscated treasures to the Hussar. Thus, when the Hussar finally entered the port of New York, it was heavily laden with precious metal.

Originally the Hussar was to unload her treasure at Cherry Street in Manhattan, where the British payroll office was. But plans changed and the frigate was loaded with additional chests of gold and silver, further weighing her down, and then ordered to Gardiner's Island. The captain felt it was too risky to swing around the coast and take the open ocean route with all the added weight. so he made a decision to take the East River route, through treacherous. rocky waters. The Hussar subsequently met her fate. Supposedly. there were about 70 American prisoners of war on board the Hussar; it is believed they all perished when the frigate sank.

Governali is a Bronx native, real estate agent and part-time actor. He possesses a deep love for his community and wants The Bronx to be remembered for its rich history, not urban blight. Governali told the audience that in 1998 he set out to produce a documentary about the complete history of The Bronx, ironically called "Hidden Treasures of The Bronx." For assistance, he sought out the help of Professor Lloyd Ultan of Fairleigh Dickinson University, who is also the borough historian of The Bronx. To get factual information correct, the professor directed Governali to the New York Public Library Rare Books Room. Governali, who was previously familiar with the wreck of the Hussar but not with the myth of its vast treasures, came upon memoirs? that linked hundreds of thousands of pounds of gold and silver to the Hussar and a map dated 1781 that indicated the Hussar's resting place. "I was in shock, Governali said.

Governali said he was able to approximate the resting place of the Hussar using by transposing the ancient map on a more current map and then continuing that process with increasingly more current maps until he was able to locate the proximity of the frigate on a modern day map. With the help of private donations. Governali put together a dive team and dove into the murky waters in search of the wreck. He told the lecture attendees that for a wreck to be considered a wreck there must be a ballast field. The divers, according to Governali, discovered a ballast field.

Governali said that on subsequent dives ballast, nails, and a ceramic pitcher in pristine condition were brought up and were' analyzed by experts in archeology and English artifacts and were confirmed to be from the mid-1700s. Also, two French cannons were identified, apparently stolen from a French ship that was attacked and overrun. However, no gold or silver has been found. "What we did find is what I believe to be the resting place of the HMS HUSSAR, " Governali declared.

In an effort to plead his case to skeptics in the audience, Governali said that the difference between his attempts and those of others before him, including an attempt by Thomas Jefferson, is that others' attempts were based on information form people before them apparently information that was inaccurate. "I wasn't looking for the ship, I found the memoirs by mistake, I found the map by accident, but I had the exact location," Governali said. In addition, according to Governali, there have been three major British expeditions further bolstering his belief that something important lies in the Hell Gate waters.

Governali estimates that the current dollar value of the mythologized booty within the wreck would be about $500 million to $2 billion. So confident is Governali in his endeavor the he filed for an order of possession for the wreck from the U.S. federal government. If in fact the wreck is the Hussar, she lies within federal shipping lanes. However, a gentleman in the audience said that the state of New York would certainly become very interested if gold and silver of the sums Governali estimates are to be found were discovered within state boundaries.

Governali and his endeavors to find the Hussar ( have been featured in the a New York Times and on CNN. A videotape of the CNN report was shown prior to Governali's remarks.

As a lead-in to the Hussar story, Professor Ultan was on hand to provide the audience with a historical overview of the Revolutionary War in and around New York City. The Professor packed as many details about this particular part of history as he could in his half-hour lecture. A lecture, the professor told the audience, that could last for months.

Thus far, Governali has made numerous dives to what he considers the wreck of the HMS Hussar. What drives him is not the money, but his love of The Bronx and his dream to put the fortune of the Hussar to work to rebuild his community and borough. "I'm not a treasure hunter," he declared.

Governali is interested in attracting sponsors for future dives, and perhaps, the recovery of a vast fortune. He has set up a website at www.hmshussar. com.



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